*I apologize in advance, this isn’t a good flow to this post but there is so much going on with the Dame 3 that I wanted to cover*
Executive Summary: The Dame 3 feels like a step forward with improved traction and firmed up Bounce. However, it also feels like a half step back; the heel fit is fickle even in the rear most position and the lace pressure gets painful back there no matter how you lace through the pegboard. More padding around the ankle or wider laces would have really helped to make it a more comfortable all around performer. I recommend longer laces for better lockdown to utilize all the eyelets. Also the midfoot and back support is very stiff.
Analytical Cubism and angularity at its finest. Photo by Pablo Picasso, shoe by Adidas and Dame Lillard
Of Adidas’s big three, Harden, Rose, and Lillard, I think Lillard is the most marketable; he’s very active on social media, comes off as authentic, doesn’t mince words, and has been loyal to Portlandia. One of the big selling points of the Lillard 2 was the price but Adidas opted to increase it $10 this year since Lillard’s stardom grew a bit after the Blazers’ playoff run last year. Is it worth the ten Dame Dolla increase?
Here is my Lillard 2 Review from last year
Lillard 2
Pros: traction, cushioning, overall fit is good after break in, support, stability, containment
Cons: firmer and less bouncy Bounce than last year, lacing system works but not totally necessary, some very light ight heel slip even after getting lace set up correct, needs some break in time to make shoe more fluid but still stiff at the midfoot and back, lace pressure can get uncomfortable if using double eyelet system at midfoot as well as at the rear eyelet, longer laces are needed if you choose to utilize all the eyelets like I did
Best for: any position
Buying Advice: polarizing angular design isn’t for everyone. $90 or less is fair, $65 is near the bottom
Weight
Adidas wins 2016 for heaviest average weight per shoe and continues the trend in 2017. I personally don’t mind but I know lots of people do. 16.5 ounces is half an ounce more than the CLB and half an ounce heavier than the Lillard 2.
Traction
If this pattern looks familiar, it’s because it has a similar blade set up as the Kyrie 2 but more linear and more blades. The great news is that it works
Thin pliable rubber check
Deep grooves check
Lots of points of contact check
Multi directional check
Not much wiping needed at all and I felt covered on all moved and all directions. Not quite top tier but close enough. I felt this was a major improvement over the 2 especially on dusty floors.
Well done Adidas!
Cushioning
Dual density Bounce is back and feels similar to the Lillard 2 but definitely firmer and slightly lower feeling in the especially in the forefoot. There is a slight heel toe drop this time around but not nearly as severe as the Rose 7.
Adidas swapped the regular strobel board of the 2 (right) for a softer one which allowed them to lower the ride without losing too much Bounce (get it?) But that’s not all.
Typically Adidas only cuts a hole in the heel but this time they cut some slits on the forefoot to allow the player to feel the Bounce a little bit more. I think one of my readers, S, asks about cutting the fiberboard strobel of the Rose 7 for enhanced feel. Guess Adidas read your mind S!
Adidas also swapped out the thicker insole of the 2 and put in their more common thin insole. Same as the Crazy Explosive and Harden, not quite as thin as the Rose 7. Swapping out the insole resulted in less step in comfort than the 2. Swapping the insoles does help with step in comfort but the 3 is still firmer overall. Plus the 2 insoles are more narrow than the 3 so they don’t really fit perfectly.
I think a big reason everyone loved Bounce last year was because it surprised us. Soft yet responsive and bouncy for a “budget” cushioning. Expectations can hurt or help a shoe so this year it meets expectations without exceeding them. Overall I found it a firmer than last year but still comfortable enough. However, it doesn’t have that same fun feel as the 2 though. I guess Bounce needs volume to keep that bouncy feeling. For those keeping score, these are much firmer than the Hardens and CLB. The plus side to the firmer set up is a quicker feeling overall.
Fit
As Adidas continues on it’s never ending riddle of sizing, I bought my true to size 11 and 10.5 to find the right fit. These feel like they run a tad longer lengthwise than last year probably due to the thinner insole and thus more space. I recommended half a size down last year and I’ll say the same for the Dame 3. Wide footers can go true to size based on tightness preference since the mesh stretches a little. Ultimately I decided to go half a size down with the 10.5.
Hey Mom look, no leather puncher ! But boy is it tempting
Adidas states the lace pegboard was Dame’s idea and it works(at least the rear three)…thank goodness it works or heel slip would have been terrible. In the stock set up with the top laces in the “neutral” position, I had serious heel slip. Moving it back to the second back and down help a little but still too much slip for me. I felt locked in with the rearmost position but it would loosen during play and still have some very tiny heel slip which is fine. The rearmost position was also the most painful in terms of lace pressure since there isn’t much padding in the tongue or around the ankle collar. As always with Adidas, I had to modify my pair somewhat to make them more comfortable so I added some moleskin to the tongue. Not ideal but it helped somewhat.
The Pegboard
Being my curious self, I fiddled around with the lace set up for an hour and a half. I’m not kidding, what kind of cruel joke does Adidas want to play with anal people like myself? Half the time was going back through the double lace hole set up which is akin to the Harden V1 set up but a little more user friendly. Still a pain in the butt, but effective because the laces don’t slip at all during play (there are downsides to this, keep reading). One problem I noticed is that you may run out of laces if you choose the back positions if you don’t slip any of the midfoot holes.
This is the set up that ended up working best for me in terms of lockdown. I bought 72 inch boot laces and I still barely had enough to tie them.
I suggest not double holing because if you accidentally pull too tight, those laces will just stay there and cut off circulation. Lace through one hole instead of two so that the laces automatically adjust to your liking.
Does the pegboard work?
The back three eyelets make a difference because they are used to lock down the heel from different angles but the midfoot eyelets (first two) don’t really make a difference where or how you lace them.
I laced through the lowest holes of the midfoot eyelets as well as the highest two to see if I could tell a difference and I really couldn’t. The laces just pull the entire pegboard down onto the foot regardless of position.
Adidas could have just used full length lace straps that they typically use that run all the way down to the foot bed which would cover all foot types or preferences. Laces automatically give you customized lockdown, that’s what they are designed for. They already used those straps in the forefoot of the Dame 3 already so why not the whole shoe? Instead of having to lace through the pegboard, the lace straps could just feed through the it from the bottom of the footbed.
I also think lockdown could have been improved by putting one eyelet higher up like they did on the Lillard 2. I always have issues with eyelets are are set too low
If Adidas really want to be efficient with modularity, they could have just made more eyelets at the top like the old days.. two or three holes near the ankle would have been enough. I only needed one extra eyelet to totally change lockdown on the CLB16.
I feel Adidas just did this pegboard triangle for buzz/polarizing factor more than anything else. They have really been experimenting with different lace set ups so I guess the can claim to be the leading lacing “innovators”. I’m guessing you won’t see a return of the pegboard next year though.
Sometimes all you need to catch a mouse is a piece of cheese, no need to reinvent the mousetrap Adidas
Materials
Fused Mesh which is exactly what it sounds like, mesh with Fuse. Nothing wrong with it since they fused high pressure areas of the mesh to strengthen the upper. Soft where it should be, strong where it should be. There is a nylon backing along the entire interior as well.
It doesn’t feel premium since it’s fused mesh but it works which is perfectly fine for me. Adidas has to cut corners somewhere to make a $115 sig shoe.
Support and Stability
You can see the Dame 3 is slightly lower than the Lillard 2
This Dame 3 is a high lowtop or a low Mid whichever way you want to look at it. The majority of the support will come from the fit and the very firm external heel counter. There is actually an internal heel counter as well.
Unlike the Mamba Mentality which can contort into my pocket for easy transport, the Dame 3 has a super stiff midfoot structure.
It doesn’t flex at all even after break in. Some people will like the extra support, some will think it is too stiff and some won’t even notice it. Most shoes flex a little bit even if they have a shank but the Dame 3 is stiff as board midfoot and back.
This was the best shot I could take with one hand. Looks like a car crash test
I feel the midfoot brace makes the shoe stiffer and slightly clunkier than the Lillard 2 on heel toe transitions. It keeps the midfoot and back from over flexing which helps prevent plantar fasciitis or other foot injuries but just doesn’t have that natural feeling. I like a more balanced blend personally.
Stability is excellent as well thanks to the a very flat outsole and this rectangular outrigger
Sticking with the angular theme I see Adidas
Overall support and stability is excellent on the Dame 3 even if the midfoot support is a little overdone.
Well done Adidas!
Containment
Adidas is getting more love from me lately because they have been addressing this highly overlooked performance aspect consistently. They must visit my site a lot 🙂
Raised midsole across the entire footbed so a true foot bucket. My forefoot actually sits at the bottom of the ridges and my heel sits at about the middle to top third of the ridges.
Notice how the ridges run up and down. This allows the “bucket” to flex more naturally. It takes a little break in to make this pliable but it doesn’t take long.
In addition to the raised bucket, Adidas reinforced the mesh in high stress high wear areas with fuse to limit stretch. And don’t forget about the pegboard, look how thick the synthetic leather it is.
Your foot isn’t going anywhere on hard cuts .
Dame knows what he wants and Dame it, that’s what he gets..and gives to us.
Well done Adidas!
Conclusion
I really wanted to like these because I think these look different…in a good way. Very slim profile and the pegboard doesn’t bother me looks wise either. The improved traction really got me excited and I liked the faster feel of the Dame 3 cushioning. However, the lack of padding at the midfoot and especially around the ankle really made the lace pressure uncomfortable. It feels like Adidas took the bootie of the Lillard 2 and just didn’t add any overlays or padding to compensate. I usually get over lace pressure pain but it never went away and I need to tie them tightly to keep my heel locked in.
I just never looked forward to wearing despite the performance improvements. If your foot doesn’t fit the one piece bootie perfectly, then the laces have to do all the work to hold the heel down and back. I enjoy wearing the Lillard 2 more even if the traction isn’t as good (and you all know how heavily I weigh traction). It’s just a better blend of comfort and fit for me.
I also got frustrated with the pegboard because it works decently but Adidas didn’t bother giving us longer laces to accommodate all the lace options. I don’t mind the occasional tweak but I feel like every time I order some Adidas, they forget the French fries and I have to switch or change something . I also don’t feel it works any better than a good standard set up. I’m 99% sure this is the last we will see of this. #goodriddence
I feel like the Dame 3 is one of those shoes that performs well in every catagory but just under performs as a shoe overall. Or maybe I’m just spoiled from my other shoes.
Everyone complains about Nike pricing because it’s easy to do but the Lillard/Dame 3 didn’t add anything this year to justify the $10 price increase.
I guess Adidas justified the $10 with the pegboard but in all reality it’s because Dame got some quality air time last year in the playoffs versus GSW. All companies use the strength of their brand and players’ brands for profit, that’s just how business works. Unfortunately at $115 and a late, almost mid season release, Adidas may have priced itself out within its own stable of shoes. Why buy the Dame 3 when the CLB 16 is available for much less? Similar if not better traction, more tech, better feeling cushioning for $91 or less on Adidas.com. Even with a leather hole punch, it’s still around $100 before any coupon codes. Or get the Rose 7 or Crazy Explosive for similar prices. If Dame is your favorite player, that’s a different story altogether. But still wait to buy because these are sitting everywhere. $90 is a fair price and I see the bottom around $65 like last year.
Thanks for the in depth review
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So….Should I just get the primeknit Dame 2s instead then?
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Especially when Lamelo dropped 92 yesterday in em 🔥🔥🔥
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Haha I saw that. He cherry picked like crazy in the fourth though so I’ll say only a legit 75 🙂
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That’s your call based on your preferences. I prefer the pk Lillard 2 even if dusty floor traction isn’t as good.
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Thank you for this! Very helpful. D2 is still my go-to, half-size down plus fat round laces, plus spenco soft-arch insole, lol. Was hoping the d3 would be a fit improvement with same cushion. Oh well. Looking forward to trying my curry 2.5’s tho on “healthy joint days.” 🙂
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Haha definitely not an upgrade on cushioning. Almost feels like charged on the 2.5 and 3 but still a little softer.
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Thanks for the review and comparison. i’m going to wait for some good discounts because i do like how these look.
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Already coupon eligible on footlocker and Eastbay. They made a lot and are sitting everywhere so just be patient. You have plenty of Lillard 2s to keep you happy I think.
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Great review. Love my Lillard 2s but they are wearing out and was thinking of trying these out. Not so sure now. Don’t like the sound of firmer cushioning and more heel slip. Maybe I’ll try them out with a really good discount. Still don’t love the shape of the tongue – really ugly looking wing. Is it noticeable when playing?
Also, thanks for the shout out on cutting the strobel board of the Roses. I still haven’t tried it yet in the Roses. I did enlarge the heel hole in the strobel of my Harden 1s and the heel cushioning is just a touch softer on heel landings – I really like the improvement. I still need to find time to try some simple cuts in the forefoot of the Hardens and/or Roses. Maybe in the next week I’ll finally get to it.
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The wings aren’t noticeable during play since they aren’t super stiff. Heel slip isn’t terrible at all but I had to decide between lacing them tightly or not cutting off circulation to my ankles. Longer laces def helped though. Was it tough cutting the strobel?
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Thanks for quick response. Appreciate the extra insight about the tongue, cushioning and heel slip.
Cutting the strobel was very easy. The strobel is an infused fiber board that’s fairly brittle and thin.I tried multiple tools – seam ripper, exacto knife, and box cutter. As long as the blade is new and sharp, it easily cuts through the fiber board with very little effort. Was easy to cut away the board in the heel with without damaging the Boost underneath or hurting myself. Forefoot is a little trickier to get to, so that’s why I haven’t tried it yet. I don’t want to rush into it and screw something up or hurt myself.
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Ha yea that’s def not worth it and it’s hard to work in that tight space .
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Cushioning is def firmer though. I liked the Lillard2 balanced feel better but they at least feel quicker kind of like charged cushioning.
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Once again a very in depth review Schwollo. The comparison with last year’s model was interesting and helpful! Keep up with the great work.
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Thanks greeksneak!
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lol I thought I’m the only one spending hours on the lacing. 😀 Literally spent five or so hours over a few days figuring out the best lacing setup for me.
Definitely have to replace the laces. The original lacing is way too short and way too thin/soft. My heel still slips even after lacing the last three eyelets. Bought a firmer rounded 160 cm lacing and no more heel slip. I don’t even have to lace too hard. I do the double eyelet system and skipped the second row. This makes the midfoot lace pressure just disappear.
It’s not a good look though for Adidas when people have to replace the laces, and I guarantee most people definitely have to in order to make this shoe good.
Love the cushioning. It’s bouncy…more so than my Drose 6. My feet don’t hurt as much after . But I feel this is subjective and can differ from pair to pair. Maybe I got a bouncier Dame 3 Bounce and stiffer Rose 6 Boost.
Love the stiff mid/back. I don’t notice it at all when playing but I think it gives extra support
Love that there’s no dead space at the toe area.
Traction is also good, no problem at all but I play in a relatively clean gym.
Hate the heel slip. Glad the lacing can fix it without having to make new holes but come on Adidas.
All in all, 8.5/10.
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I feel like adidas is giving us tech specs but forgetting the basic basics like laces. Swapping out the harden laces for flat laces really allows me to pull tighter (sad but true). even harden uses flat laces. Lacing through every eyelet on the Lillard helped for me but must be the way my ankle is shaped and how I move that just doesn’t work for me. I think it’s a good shoe overall but not great. 8.5 to 8 is about right. I just don’t enjoy wearing them like the 2.
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One thing that I keep hearing lately is how Adidas’ shoes vary from pair to pair. I don’t know how nobody is complaining about this but IMHO this is bad quality control. My Rose 6 was stiff as a rock and my friend’s is very bouncy. I keep reading that from review to review and, as someone that can’t buy Adidas’s shoes at local stores, this is really worrying.
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Ha I’m writing one. I went through four pairs of Hardens and found varying levels of bounce. But I really went through diff pairs bc I found the heel collars varied between right and left and pair to pair. Finally found one that worked. Adidas is close to getting it right but little stuff adds up as I’ve said before.
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Great detailed review! I couldn’t pass on the rip city colorway so had to grab em! I havent played in them yet but I’m excited for these! Keep up the good work!
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Thanks ! I like the Rip City a lot very clean and simple. How much is it over in the U.K.?
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They’re £90 so roughly around 115usd almost same price as US. Still hunting for some cheap dame2 here
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Oh not bad at all then
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I don’t have a pair but tried in store and found the forefoot quite firm – Schwollo is that what you mean by firmer cushioning or is the whole shoe firmer including the heel?
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Yes whole
Shoe is firmer but mostly the forefoot. Heel
Still has a lot of volume so bounce feels ok back there. It’s not bad just different than the 2
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The heel to toe drop is actually bigger than in the DRose 7s, its around 0,8cm in the DRose 7s and around 1,25cm in the Lillards, its much bigger actually. This huge heel to toe drop is propably one of the reasons why the heel lockdown is so bad, ( I once wrote you about my heel drop and heel slip theory on Instagram 😉 Go to http://www.fastpass.cn/review/8370 and see the pics and measurments for yourself
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Oh cool interesting it doesn’t feel like it but I’ll
Check it out. What’s your IG?
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My IG is ponix24, the theory was that the bigger the heel to toe drop is the more your heel will want to slip out because heel to toe drop essentialy means that your foot lays on a foundation that slopes downhill, the bigger the heel to toe drop the steeper the slope the more your heel will want to slip out. BTW I strongly advise you to pay regular visits to the site that I posted above, its heaven for shoe nerds, they cut up and dissect all the new releases
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Theory makes sense to me. I already follow you on IG lol . I periodically look at their site but usually after I do a review so I don’t get too stuck on the specs and tech .
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Great in depth review again Schwollo
I love the look of the shoe and the pegboard really peaked my interest but I was concerned about fit and cushioning and looks like this will be a pass for me as a performance shoe.
Keep up the great work
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Try them on in store and see ..it’s not a bad shoe at all just didn’t work for me. Or wait for discounts they made a ton .
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Been waiting for this review! Excellent as always. I was planning on buying these but looks like I’m going to pass. The combination of heel slip, lace pressure and clunky heel to toe are deal breakers for me.
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It isn’t super clunky or anything like that just stiffer than last year . Heel slip isn’t terrible for me either but lots of tiny things add up. Just not as enjoyable as last year’s
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Schwollo, may I suggest adding a “forefoot width” section to your already very detailed review. As a person with wide foot, this is always my first concern. I imagine people with narrow foot would be interested in this too.
I don’t know how you’d do this but I saw in fastpass they use calipers. Anyways, just a suggestion.
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Good idea. Calipers might be overboard for me but I’ll
Include forefoot width . Fwiw 10.5 fit a little snug for my wide foot but still comfortable. 11 felt more comfortable width wide but ran a little long
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something that would help this never ending sizing question is if people knew their width sizing. hard to compare when people just say I have wide feet. Most foot stores have a measuring device that will let you know.
I got to be accountable so I’ll start. lol. I’m a 2E wide. my TTS is 10.5 2E. I was able to go TTS in these. At first I was afraid the width was too snug and would rub (tailor bunion) but the material flexes. I had more issues with figuring out the lacing for the heel slip. Makes me think I could have tired a 10.
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Hey would you recommend cutting the uhhh… strobel board?( is that what you call it?) to get a “bouncier” feel or not? Thanks for the great review as always. I might pick up if the price is right. Thanks!!!! 🙏🙏🙏
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Also, was wondering if you are planning to review the PG1s. Look pretty promising, although that traction might be sketchy with translucent outsoles. But in my opinion looks kinda similar to the Kobe tens traction, which apparently was alright.
(Side note) I think Paul George Damian Lillard could have a nice rivalry, at least shoe wise, with Nike and adidas competing to make the best lower signature model for the two. I know they are two different players, but just a thought…. doesn’t seem like there a ton of signature shoe “rivalries” like there were in the nineties. Could be wrong though.
One other thing I’ve noticed is that the PG1s on foot look kind of similar to the Nike SB Trainerendors. http://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/nike-pg1-paul-george-shoes.jpg And https://fa707ec5abab9620c91c-e087a9513984a31bae18dd7ef8b1f502.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/8363375_nike-sb-trainerendor-grey_9a767249_m.jpg?bg=5A5657 …. Just the placement of the swoosh, the midfoot strap, kind of the overall placement of the swoosh… Maybe it’s just me, just something I’ve noticed.
Keep up the good work.
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Yes.. aside from
Me and PG love for fishing I’m a fan of his game. We will see how it performs but I expect it to play like a hyperlive/Hyperrev. Not expecting much in terms of cushioning or materials though . As for the shoe rivalry, it’s always fun to see competition. You gotta remember Nike owns 90% plus of hoops market and have very loyal customers despite what it may seem on IG and sneaker sites (so much stuff to write about !!)
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I don’t think it will help bc the strobel
On the 3 is foam. I think Bounce needs volume to feel bouncy. You could put a new insole in to help though
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True true.. thanks for the quick response.
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your remark about the bounce being firmer is kind of surprising to me, because i think the exact opposite, haha, the 2 was kind of dead feeling to me, great shoe but it was a bit higher off the ground that i’m used to and the foam is dense, the 3 on the other hand is lower and bouncier to me, much more fun to play in and a legitimately excellent shoe (bar the lace problem, that you so rightly mentoned), as opposed to the 2 which was a great performer for the price you were paying…they’re still not on the level of the harden and the CLB to me, but in my rotation they would probably still be number 3, above the hyperdunk low and the kyrie 3s
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Ha just comes to show how different people have different experiences with different shoes. Or it’s Adidas quality control. It is a good overall shoe love the traction but just lot of little things bothered me. Definitely behind the clb (with mod) for me.
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schwollo, do you plan to review any of the newer nikes ? Hyper…ops, i mean rev 2017 , the hyperlive or live or zoom live, whatever it is named? I just played again on my Hyperrev 2015 and damn, it is by far my favorite shoe to play on (not that I have tried a lot here in the north of south america hehe). Light, quick, ok cushion, I don’t even remember it is on my foot.
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2015 hyperrev was great . If it ain’t broke don’t fix it or change it imo.
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I finally found out why the Dame 3 feels way bouncier than my DRose 6 PK. The strobel board on the Dame 3 is pretty soft while the one on Rose 6 PK is quite hard.
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The Rose 6 pk has a firm strobel? My regular Rose 6 is fabric so that’s interesting
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Yeah, on the Lillard 3, they use a very soft material as the strobel board. It feels like…silicone. The DRose 6 PK is way firmer.
Here’s a comparison of the two:
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That’s weird bc my Rose 6 non Pk has a cloth strobel..thus your firmer cushioning on the Rose pk ..wtf adidas? Lol
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Schwollo,
You said the 3’s felt longer than the 2’s, but every other reviewer I’ve read said the opposite. Can you clarify? Thanks.
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I had more length in the toe box with the 3 than the 2 by just a little bit but either way had to size down with the 2 and 3.
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Hm the 3 appears to fit more narrow than the 2 around the toe box maybe that’s why.
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Honestly, maybe not a great shoe, but if it’s available for $65 on Finish Line … Sign me up! http://www.finishline.com/store/product/mens-adidas-dame-3-basketball-shoes/prod1510085?styleId=BB8269&colorId=BWR
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Haha yep I saw those deals. Took quite a discount to make them move.
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Schwollo,
Thanks for in depth review, i just bought it 1 month ago (in indonesia the price is really expensive, 145usd if i convert) i usually use drose 6 to play. And when i play with dame 3 last night i shocked, my foot hurt like hell, especially at outside of left leg, the cushion cant give me the impact protection that i need, my knee and my lower back start to hurt after third quarter of the game. I didnt feel this kind of hurt when i used hyperrev 2016. Whats your opinion? Did i choose a wrong shoe? Sorry for my bad english
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Your English is great so no problem. Coming from the Rose 6 to Dame 3 is a big difference. Much firmer cushioning and a lot more heel to toe drop than the rose 6. I wouldn’t say cushioning is bad but it isn’t soft and comfortable like the Rose 6. Lillard 2 is soft by they firmed it up for the Lillard 3 and lowered it. Try adding a thicker insole and see if that works for you
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Thank’s for the quick reply, will try to change the insole, will inform u later.
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Schwollo,
I changed the insole with “hapenss” insole (china made insole that quite solid, its pretty hard here to find a good insole like spenco or dr. Shock) and i played it last night. It improved the impact protection, but still hurt my knee. Is it okay if i double the insole?
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It’s going to be a tight fit and will make the shoe ride pretty high off the ground. Just try putting your original insole and the new one in and see how that works. Hope
It helps!
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Schwollo,
i followed your advice, last night i played with it, and because i put 2 insole (original+additional) the fit was really tight, and it felt so heavy. I will sell this shoe, i cant play with it.
Need your advice of what shoes that i should buy.
i already have drose6 and i like it although a bit heavy.
I tried once my friend HR16 and i like it, its light, more flexible and have good cushion.
I also read your soldier IX review and its look promising.
Maybe you have another ‘candidate’ ???
Thanks in advance schwollo.
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What are you looking for in a shoe? So far I see you want better cushioning and lighter weight
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Schwollo,
I play PF, 6ft 210lb. Power explosive type player who like play post, drive, and jump shoot. I usually look for soft cushioning especially forefoot, good and durable traction for outdoor, not too heavy, adequate suport and stable. Please give your opinion.
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More evenly cushioned adidas shoes include the Rose 6, CLB16 , Lillard 2 and the Explosive Bounce. Soldier ix would be a good option or soldier VI if you can find them on eBay. For outdoor use the soldier ix would be a good shoe overall . I cut the straps off my Rose 6 and really like the shoe a lot more. Just a thought if you’re bored lol
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Schwollo,
Thank you, i appreciate your help.
No hyperrev 2016 on your option for me?
How you cut the strap on the rose 6? Please take some picture of your rose 6 for me.
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That’s actually a very good option . I didn’t dig deep enough back lol .
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Schwollo,
I read all of your review and comment of all shoes in option that you gave me ( you are really good on reviewing performance of all the shoes, so detail, i read them all night long)
It came to 3 shoes that look like suit to my needs, they are Drose6, soldier ix, and hyperrev 2016.
I already have drose 6 and i still wait for your photo to modify it so it will become “super” drose 6.
Now is soldier ix vs hyperrev 2016. Please tell me their differences and pros n cons of them.
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I will get back to you tonight or tomorrow . Is zedhael your ig I’m assuming ?
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Schwollo,
Is tonight on indonesia time lol.
Yes my ig is zedhael, i just followed you yesterday.
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Schwollo,
Thanks for the photo, will get the rose 6 in to ‘surgery’ lol…
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Lol
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So 2018 is here and the pegboard will come back in the Harden vol 2’s, guess Adidas just likes to mess around with people.
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Yep I saw that. It will help with containment but all the peg holes aren’t necessary. We will see if adidas even sells it as a benefit this time around.
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